Perbincangan pengguna:Godot13

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Apli kasi 18:04, 1 Disember 2013 (UTC)

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Israel-2013 claims not welcome here. Yosri (bincang) 06:03, 11 Disember 2013 (UTC)

@Yosri - I have responded on your talk page. I use a standard naming convention for all my images: Country, Year, City, Object. I'm sorry that you interpret the file name as some kind of unwelcome claim, as opposed to embracing the image (whose caption did not make claim or mention of Israel). I am disappointed that you would remove a significantly superior image because of a file name and not recognize the spirit in which it is shared. It is your loss, and most certainly does not assume good faith.-Godot13 (bincang) 04:04, 12 Disember 2013 (UTC)

Muslim do not recognise Isreal occupations on those areas. I can rename those image, but do not do so on account respect to the original uploader. I rather lose a good picture that losing the land, how about you? Yosri (bincang) 04:27, 12 Disember 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for not renaming the images. I didn't know we were talking about land... only encyclopedic images. It is interesting that of all the predominantly Muslim societies with their own wikipedia, Malay seems to be the only one with this issue. I will not belabor the issue as my intent was only friendly.-Godot13 (bincang) 04:40, 12 Disember 2013 (UTC)

Malaysia or rather I am more sensitive after losing Batu Puteh. That bring to mind, how did you get approval from Israel military for aerial photograph? Must be quite an effort to update all those wiki. Yosri (bincang) 06:59, 12 Disember 2013 (UTC)

No approval necessary, all images taken at least 1000m from the city walls. Yes, it is an effort, but I felt it was an image worth sharing because it shows almost every major structure in the complex.-Godot13 (bincang) 00:07, 13 Disember 2013 (UTC)

Yosri, and I say this with respect, you admit that you are more sensitive to this issue because of a regional dispute that (I am inferring) you are saying bears resemblance to issues in the Middle East. Perhaps your decision to remove my images 1 Dome of the Rock and 2 Aerial view of the Temple Mount is not entirely neutral? I have an image of Al-Aqsa Mosque, which is currently a Featured Picture candidate on Arabic Wikipedia, with unconditional support so far, and the file name begins exactly the same as those you removed. I am frustrated by this because you are turning my images of revered Islamic places (which I took specifically to share on Wikipedia) into a forum for politics...-Godot13 (bincang) 04:36, 13 Disember 2013 (UTC)

My decision is entirely neutral as the place is own by Muslim and Israel is trying to take control of it. I see your any action of assigning the such name is a subtle effort to acknowledge/promoting Israel ownership. The picture name should be entirely neutral with no attempt to acknowledge/promoting Israel ownership. Yosri (bincang) 02:59, 15 Disember 2013 (UTC)

Hi there. I am sorry if you think that I did not assumed any good faith, as it is not my intentions. I am just stating the reason I reverse the edit. Using Israel name as part of Al-Aqsa Mosque, I considered falls under reason "non-neutrality and bias, being pro-Israel". The file name should not include Israel name as part of Al-Aqsa Mosque to retain neutrality. I am sorry if my message to you seem abrupt, as I also been doing a lot of other thing here. You can liaise with bureaucrat Aurora for second opinions. Yosri (bincang) 07:55, 15 Disember 2013 (UTC)

• Is there any way to change a file name only for ms.wikipedia, but not the central/main commons file name? If this is impossible to do, would you accept the file name beginning "ISR-2013"?

Yes. If you give your consent, it can be reupload under new name in MS Wiki. Yosri (bincang) 08:37, 15 Disember 2013 (UTC)

Since the legal status of Jerusalem under international law is currently disputed, I agree that prefixing the filenames with Israel can be regarded as not neutral. I'm quite busy currently to get drawn into a lengthy dispute, so I hope the two of you can settle this between yourselves. ...Aurora... (b) 08:36, 16 Disember 2013 (UTC)

• Yosri, please feel free to remove my remaining image from ms.wiki. It is ironically the lead picture of the Al-Aqsa Mosque page and was nominated as FP, which was when Aurora expressed initial displeasure with the file name, but did nothing to remove it. In my dealings with over 40 different wikipedias, this has been a first for me.-Godot13 (bincang) 23:47, 23 Disember 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I do not remove picture because of you. I only remove pictures deems bias. I might miss some, unintentionally. I really appreciate your contributions, that is why I do not rename the files without your consent.Yosri (bincang) 23:58, 23 Disember 2013 (UTC)