Wikipedia:Kedai Kopi (lain-lain): Perbezaan antara semakan

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Watch out for users that erase edit history
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<span style="border-left:5px solid #900000;padding:5px;background:linear-gradient(white 0%,#eeeeee 100%);font-variant:small-caps;box-shadow:0 0 0.3rem #999">'''[[User:EmpAhmadK|<font style="color:black">EmpAhmadK</font>]]''' - ([[User_talk:EmpAhmadK|<font style="color:black;">bincang</font>]])</span> 15:28, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
<span style="border-left:5px solid #900000;padding:5px;background:linear-gradient(white 0%,#eeeeee 100%);font-variant:small-caps;box-shadow:0 0 0.3rem #999">'''[[User:EmpAhmadK|<font style="color:black">EmpAhmadK</font>]]''' - ([[User_talk:EmpAhmadK|<font style="color:black;">bincang</font>]])</span> 15:28, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

== Watch out for users that erase edit history ==
I have noticed that some users move an article, then copy the text back to the original article and then nominate the moved article for deletion.

The result is the edit history is deleted and it is no longer possible to see who edited the original article and what changes they made.

I see no good reason for doing that. If someone write "User xxx is a penis!" then admins can hide that revision. So the only reason I can think of is vandalism or perhaps a user that do not understand how Wikipedia works.

Examples:
# [[Pengguna:Sun east fc]] - [https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khas:Log?type=move&user=Pengguna%3ASun+east+fc&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= moved these articles]
# [[Pengguna:Republik Kasultanan Samoa]] - [https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khas:Log?type=move&user=Pengguna%3ARepublik+Kasultanan+Samoa&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= moved these articles]
# [[Pengguna:PERMUDA]] - [https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khas:Log?type=move&user=Pengguna%3APERMUDA&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= moved these articles]
# [[Pengguna:Paolus Hadi]] - [https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khas:Log?type=move&user=Pengguna%3APaolus+Hadi&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= moved these articles]
# [[Pengguna:Ummu Afif]] - [https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khas:Log?type=move&user=Pengguna%3AUmmu+Afif&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= moved these articles]

I think the correct would be to restore the edit history. That is of course harder when several articles have been moved to the same place and deleted.

In future I think that admins should monitor the move log and either block users that move articles with no good reason or explain that it is not good to move articles. --[[Pengguna:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[Perbincangan pengguna:MGA73|bincang]]) 11:42, 9 Mei 2021 (UTC)

Semakan pada 11:43, 9 Mei 2021

Laman ini merupakan salah satu daripada bahagian-bahagian Kedai Kopi untuk perbincangan mengenai topik-topik yang tidak bertepatan dengan bahagian-bahagian Kedai Kopi yang lain. Sila pos di laman dasar, cadangan, atau teknikal, atau di meja bantuan mengikut kesesuaian perkara yang anda ingin bincangkan. Untuk soalan pengetahuan umum, rujuklah di meja rujukan.
Sila letakkan tandatangan beserta tarikh bagi kiriman anda (dengan menaip ~~~~ atau klik butang Tandatangan dan cap waktu pada bar peralatan menyunting).kenapa?


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Pencalonan PeaceSearcher sebagai penyelia.

Semua pengguna berdaftar dikemput untuk membuat pengundian ke atas PeaceSearcher sebagai penyelia di Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu. Laman pengundian telah dicipta dan anda sudah boleh mengundi pada bila-bila masa. Sekiranya anda mempunyai apa-apa soalan untuk diajukan kepada calon, anda dibenarkan berbuat demikian di bahagian yang telah disediakan. Saya harap anda semua boleh bersama-sama melakukan undian sama ada bersetuju atau tidak bersetuju dengan rasional. Sekian. - CyberTroopers bincang/sumbangan 09:17, 17 Januari 2021 (UTC)[balas]

Moving Wikimania 2021 to a Virtual Event

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Hello. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. Please help translate to your language. Terima kasih!

Wikimania will be a virtual event this year, and hosted by a wide group of community members. Whenever the next in-person large gathering is possible again, the ESEAP Core Organizing Team will be in charge of it. Stay tuned for more information about how you can get involved in the planning process and other aspects of the event. Please read the longer version of this announcement on wikimedia-l.

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Project Grant Open Call

This is the announcement for the Project Grants program open call that started on January 11, with the submission deadline of February 10, 2021.
This first open call will be focussed on Community Organizing proposals. A second open call focused on research and software proposals is scheduled from February 15 with a submission deadline of March 16, 2021.

For the Round 1 open call, we invite you to propose grant applications that fall under community development and organizing (offline and online) categories. Project Grant funds are available to support individuals, groups, and organizations to implement new experiments and proven ideas, from organizing a better process on your wiki, coordinating a campaign or editathon series to providing other support for community building. We offer the following resources to help you plan your project and complete a grant proposal:

Program officers are also available to offer individualized proposal support upon request. Contact us if you would like feedback or more information.

We are excited to see your grant ideas that will support our community and make an impact on the future of Wikimedia projects. Put your idea into motion, and submit your proposal by February 10, 2021!

Please feel free to get in touch with questions about getting started with your grant application, or about serving on the Project Grants Committee. Contact us at projectgrantsTemplat:Atwikimedia.org. Please help us translate this message to your local language. MediaWiki message delivery (bincang) 08:01, 28 Januari 2021 (UTC)[balas]

New Wikipedia Library Collections Available Now (February 2021)

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The Wikipedia Library is announcing new free, full-access, accounts to reliable sources as part of our research access program. You can sign up to access research materials on the Library Card platform:

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Wiki Loves Folklore 2021 is back!

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You are humbly invited to participate in the Wiki Loves Folklore 2021 an international photography contest organized on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from different regions, including, folk creative activities and many more. It is held every year from the 1st till the 28th of February.

You can help in enriching the folklore documentation on Commons from your region by taking photos, audios, videos, and submitting them in this commons contest.

Please support us in translating the project page and a banner message to help us spread the word in your native language.

Kind regards,

Wiki loves Folklore International Team

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National squad

Hello! Is it possible to correct some of the errors concerning the national squad template. You can place malay parameters as well as the english ones. Regarding team and competition links these errors needs to be corrected to make the template more readable and understandable. Yours sincerely, Sondre --88.89.103.126 21:13, 13 Februari 2021 (UTC)[balas]

Feminism & Folklore 1 February - 31 March

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Greetings!

You are invited to participate in Feminism and Folklore writing contest. This year Feminism and Folklore will focus on feminism, women's biographies and gender-focused topics for the project in league with Wiki Loves Folklore gender gap focus with folk culture theme on Wikipedia. folk activities, folk games, folk cuisine, folk wear, fairy tales, folk plays, folk arts, folk religion, mythology, etc.

You can help us in enriching the folklore documentation on Wikipedia from your region by creating or improving articles centered on folklore around the world, including, but not limited to folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, women and queer personalities in folklore, folk culture (folk artists, folk dancers, folk singers, folk musicians, folk game athletes, women in mythology, women warriors in folklore, witches and witch-hunting, fairy tales and more. You can contribute to new articles or translate from the list of suggested articles here.

You can also support us in translating the project page and help us spread the word in your native language.

Learn more about the contest and prizes from our project page. Thank you.

Feminism and Folklore team,

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Wikifunctions logo contest

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Meminta sokongan: WikiSelera | Acara pertandingan gambar masakan Malaysia

Salam sejahtera para Wikipediawan sekalian!

Pihak Kumpulan Komuniti Pengguna Wikimedia Malaysia ingin menganjurkan satu acara pertandingan gambar bebas masakan Malaysia yang dinamakan WikiSelera. Tujuan pertandingan ini adalah untuk mengisi satu jurang iaitu ketiadaan gambar-gambar dalam kebanyakan rencana berkaitan makanan tradisi Malaysia. Acara ini akan diadakan dari 1 April 2021 hingga ke 7 Julai 2021, sempena beberapa sambutan termasuk Ramadan, Hari Raya, Kaamatan dan Hari Gawai Dayak. Hadiah akan diberi kepada 5 pemenang utama, serta setiap pemenang bagi 5 kategori khas.

Bagi pihak Wikimedia Malaysia, saya berharap untuk mendapatkan sokongan dari para pengguna Wikipedia sekalian dalam menjayakan program ini, agar dapat kita memperkenalkan makanan yang merupakan salah satu elemen utama budaya kita kepada dunia di luar sana. Sila balas dengan tanda {{undi|y}} jika anda bersetuju, dan maklum balas tambahan boleh disertakan sekali untuk menambah baik usaha ini.

Permintaan geran bagi projek ini telah diusulkan di sini, dan maklumat lanjut mengenai acara ibni boleh dibaca di laman tersebut.

Terima kasih, EmpAhmadK - (bincang) 02:09, 6 Mac 2021 (UTC)[balas]

Setuju Saya akan bantu dari segi rondaan pada rencana yang berkaitan. - CyberTroopers bincang/sumbangan 11:44, 6 Mac 2021 (UTC)[balas]

Soalan tentang kegunaan gambar logo Bahagian Mukah

Hello kepada semua dan maafkanlah saya kalau salah atau silap, kerana saya belajar di Malaysia hanya sampai darjah 6.

Ada perbincangan di Wikimedia Commons mengenai kegunaan gambar ini. Rupanya bahwa gambar logo bahagian-bahagian Sarawak ialah hak cipta tetapi kami tak tahu apa itu makna untuk kegunaan gambar itu. Adakah kegunaan dilarang? Kalau sesiapa tahu apa-apa tentang hal ini, saya mengajak anda ke benang itu di Commons. Terima kasih banyak.

Yang ikhlas,

Ikan Kekek (bincang) 00:37, 14 Mac 2021 (UTC)[balas]

Saya harap ada orang yang boleh kata apa-apa tentang hal ini. Kalau tidak, nanti orang akan buang gambar ini daripada Commons. Ikan Kekek (bincang) 01:32, 20 Mac 2021 (UTC)[balas]
@Ikan Kekek: Kami sebenarnya tak boleh buat apa-apa berkenaan logo yang dimiatnaik di Commons. Apa yang dikatakan mereka di sana betul, beberapa logo di Malaysia masih berhakcipta kecuali badan-badan kerajaan. Logo tu tak salah, boleh je kalau nak guna, tapi memuat naik di commons yang sepatutnya tempat fail yang bebas dari sebarang hak cipta. Disebabkan hak cipta ni la fail sebegitu dilarang dimuat naik di sana berdasakan akta hakcipta Amerika (sebab server umtuk semua bahasa Wikipedia dan projek yg lain dibawah wikimedia guna server di Amerika.)
Jadi buat masa ni belum ada lagi solusi untuk selamatkan fail di sana melainkan muat naik lokal di Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu diaktifkan semula. Maafkan kami. SNN95 Talk to me, beybeh! 03:18, 26 Mac 2021 (UTC)[balas]
Saya faham apa anda tulis disini. Mungkin ini betul tetapi saya fikir kalau kerajaan Malaysia biar kegunaan logo ini, boleh jadi OK. Saya akan terangkan jawaban anda dalam Bahasa Inggeris di Commons. Terima kasih untuk jawaban ini. -- Ikan Kekek (bincang) 10:33, 29 Mac 2021 (UTC)[balas]

Files - action is needed now - what to do?

Hello everyone!

I have been making comments about files a few times and slowly problems are fixed. But according to wmf:Resolution:Licensing policy from March 2007 files that does not follow the policy must be deleted. The time limit that was set was March 23, 2008.

In a few days it is 13 years past the time limit!!!

I know it is a big work to check all files and fix problems or delete files. But there is no way to avoid it.

Atm. there are 18,425 files on ms.wiki (when posted there was 20,238 files):

The reason the numbers does not match the total is that some files are in both categories or have no license at all.

Easy things to work on:

Harder things:

  • Check if the free files have a valid source (for example a link or the text "Own work" or "I made this photo"), author (for example user name if uploader is the photographer) and license
  • Check if the non-free files meet the requirements for fair use

For non-free files there is a requirement that the size of the file may not be too big. Another requirement is to delete or hide old versions of the file so only the current version is visible.

At the moment that is hard to check because ms.wiki have no bot or tools to spot files that are too big or have old versions of the file. I think that I can perhaps help with that later. But first files have to be cleaned up so we do not waste time on files that should be deleted anyway.

Only admins can delete files but all users can help check if it is possible to add a valid license to a file without a license (if it is fair use) or if an orphan file can be used in an article. It is also possible to check if a file have a valid source, author, non-free use rationale etc. and if not then nominate the file for deletion.

As an alternative the easy solution is to delete ALL files!!!

Yes, delete all files! All free files should be located on Commons and it is possible to have articles without allowing non-free content. Not all wikis have allowed fair use. So it can be done.

I do not think it is acceptable to go on without fixing the problems. So unless something happens soon I think the only alternative is to delete the files. I do know that it is not possible unless 1) community agree to do so, or 2) an admin agree that there is a problem and delete the files or 3) a discussion is started on meta and it is resolved that the problem have to be fixed with or without local support.

Discussions on meta where global action is forced upon a wiki does not happen very often and it should not be needed. But if things do not go faster I see no other solution.

I think what could be needed is help from other wikis to run a bot to make things easier for local wikis or help make scripts to make it easier.

I have been helping vi.wiki and uk.wiki cleaning up files. And I got a user from uk.wiki to use a bot on vi.wiki to reduce the size of non-free files. If ms.wiki have many non-free files that should be reduced then perhaps we can find a similar solution here.

But I will only ask for help if ms.wiki find a way to speed up the process of cleaning up.

Sorry to write in English. I hope most of you understand. You are very welcome to comment and discuss in Malay (Bahasa Melayu). --MGA73 (bincang) 11:55, 20 Mac 2021 (UTC)[balas]

I noticed that a few admins are deleting files now and that is great. But non-admins can help out too. For example if an unused file is added to a relevant article and/or if a file without a license if fixed by adding a fair use rationale and a non-free template. --MGA73 (bincang) 06:07, 31 Mac 2021 (UTC)[balas]

Files nominated for deletion:

--MGA73 (bincang) 18:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[balas]

I have added a non-free rationale template and a non-free license tag to the files in Kategori:Files without a license to make it easier for users to fix. But users have to check IF the file is eligible for fair use (if there are free files then it is not eligible) and IF the right rationale and license tag is used (for example it could be better to use {{kulit album}} or one of the other license tags and another rationale template) and add/fix the information that is missing or is incorrect. Once it is checked and fixed the category can be removed. --MGA73 (bincang) 19:52, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[balas]

National squad

Hello! Is it possible for you to have a correct template for national teams with parameters in the Malay language alongside the English ones. And documentation in Malay?. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 13:40, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[balas]

80.212.169.236 Good day! May I know what's wrong with the template? I've looked on it before but I'm not so sure what's needed to be fixed. Also, can you provide an article that use the template that had shown the errors so it'll be easier for me to figure out what's going on in it. Thanks! - CyberTroopers bincang/sumbangan 01:41, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[balas]

Fasa 2 Tatakelakuan Sejagat

Tatakelakuan Sejagat (UCoC) bertujuan untuk mewujudkan sebuah piawaian minimum perilaku di seluruh projek pada gerakan Wikimedia. UCoC saat ini sedang berada pada Fasa 2, iaitu fasa perumusan panduan penguatkuasaan umum. Anda dapat mengetahui lebih banyak tentang UCoC di halaman projeknya.

Jawatankuasa Penggubal: Undangan untuk mendaftar

Yayasan Wikimedia menjemput sukarelawan yang berminat untuk ikut merumuskan penguatkuasaan UCoC. Sukarelawan yang terpilih diminta untuk menyumbangkan 2 sehingga 6 jam setiap minggunya dari akhir April sehingga Julai dan dari Oktober sehingga November. Susunan jawatankuasa ini diharapkan untuk mempunyai ahli yang seberagam dan seinklusif mungkin, dengan peringkat pengalaman yang berbeza-beza: pengguna yang sudah lama menyunting mahupun baru bergabung, sudah pernah mengalami atau menangani kes perlanggaran keselamatan ataupun pernah dituduh secara salah.

Untuk mendaftar, sila rujuk laman Jawatankuasa Penggubal.

Perundingan komuniti 2021: Pengumuman dan undangan untuk sukarelawan dan penerjemah

Dari 5 April sehingga 5 Mei 2021, sebahagian besar projek Wikimedia akan menganjurkan perbincangan tentang penguatkuasaan UCoC. Kami mencari sukarelawan yang bersedia untuk menerjemahkan bahan-bahan utama, sekali gus menganjurkan perbincangan di komuniti mereka menggunakan pertayaan kunci yang telah disediakan. Jika Anda tertarik untuk bergabung dan melakukan salah satu atau kedua fungsi tersebut, sila hubungi kami.

Untuk mengetahui lebih banyak tentang perundingan ini, sila rujuk laman perundingan 2021.

-- Xeno (WMF) (bincang) 20:59, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[balas]

Global bot policy changes

Line numbering coming soon to all wikis

-- Johanna Strodt (WMDE) 15:09, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[balas]

National squad

Hello! I meant the module for national squad of course. Check what is wrong in that module. Concerning competition and team links. Team links should be listed with pasukan bola sepak kebangsaan. You can also use the original english template as a reference en:Template:National squad. The parameters should be in Malay language alongside the english ones but it is best to have it in Malay if it is possible to translate it locally. Check the template and see what you find. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 13:17, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[balas]

Jemputan WikiSihat

Jemputan WikiSihat

Hai Kedai Kopi (lain-lain)! Kumpulan Komuniti Pengguna Wikimedia Malaysia mengalu-alukan penyertaan anda dalam pertandingan ini. Anda dijemput untuk mengikuti WikiSihat dengan kerjasama WHO Representative Office for Malaysia, Brunei Darussalam, and Singapore.

Cipta rencana berkaitan kesihatan dan menangi sijil dari WHO Representative Office for Malaysia, Brunei Darussalam, and Singapore!

Ahli Wikipedia yang mencipta rencana yang terbanyak akan mendapat sijil bertandatangan khas!

Daftar sekarang! Hantar rencana Maklumat lanjut

Selamat berjaya! Ikhlas daripada saya, SNN95

Suggested Values

Timur Vorkul (WMDE) 14:08, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[balas]

Templat {{hamzahtigasuku}} / {{ء}} untuk paparan huruf hamzah tiga suku

Salam sejahtera. Memandangkan bahawa pihak Konsortium Unikod belum menambah huruf Jawi hamzah tiga suku ke dalam Unikod, saya telah mencipta satu templat untuk memaparkan huruf hamzah tiga suku secara lebih tepat berbanding penggunaan huruf hamzah atas alif (أ), hamzah tinggi (ٴ) dan hamzah superskrip (ء)yang tidak memaparkan huruf hamzah tiga suku secara betul dari segi saiz dan posisi.

Templat ini boleh digunakan dengan menulis {{hamzahtigasuku}} atau {{ء}} untuk menggantikan huruf hamzah di tempat di mana hamzah tiga suku sepatutnya ditulis. Ketinggian huruf hamzah ini secara lalai disesuaikan bagi format penulisan biasa (seperti ini), namun boleh diubah jika perlu dengan meletakkan nilai ketinggian yang dimahukan (contoh: {{ء|5}}. Maklumat lanjut boleh diperolehi di laman dokumentasi templat tersebut.

Saya juga mengalu-alukan sebarang penambahbaikan kepada sistem ini agar lebih mudah digunakan di Wikipedia sambil kita menunggu huruf ini untuk dimasukkan ke dalam Unikod.

EmpAhmadK - (bincang) 15:28, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[balas]

Watch out for users that erase edit history

I have noticed that some users move an article, then copy the text back to the original article and then nominate the moved article for deletion.

The result is the edit history is deleted and it is no longer possible to see who edited the original article and what changes they made.

I see no good reason for doing that. If someone write "User xxx is a penis!" then admins can hide that revision. So the only reason I can think of is vandalism or perhaps a user that do not understand how Wikipedia works.

Examples:

  1. Pengguna:Sun east fc - moved these articles
  2. Pengguna:Republik Kasultanan Samoa - moved these articles
  3. Pengguna:PERMUDA - moved these articles
  4. Pengguna:Paolus Hadi - moved these articles
  5. Pengguna:Ummu Afif - moved these articles

I think the correct would be to restore the edit history. That is of course harder when several articles have been moved to the same place and deleted.

In future I think that admins should monitor the move log and either block users that move articles with no good reason or explain that it is not good to move articles. --MGA73 (bincang) 11:42, 9 Mei 2021 (UTC)[balas]